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Re: Pick YOLO gem against this guy.
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2013, 12:20:30 am »
No. He needs to have a buff to his horizontal  height when his head grows. The trouble is that even with a big head, the entire cast can still get over jafailey's kick which makes headshotting him take no skill. If his horizontal height per head size was buff, jafailey will be perfectly balanced.

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Re: Pick YOLO gem against this guy.
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2013, 12:32:51 am »
No. He needs to have a buff to his horizontal  height when his head grows. The trouble is that even with a big head, the entire cast can still get over jafailey's kick which makes headshotting him take no skill. If his horizontal height per head size was buff, jafailey will be perfectly balanced.

That wouldn't really be a possible fix since everyone using Yolo gems get +30% to dive meaning that they should be able to get over him at that point.
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Re: Pick YOLO gem against this guy.
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2013, 12:36:56 am »
that is only to speed like the dive and kick gems.

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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2013, 09:51:46 am »
that is only to speed like the dive and kick gems.

The increased speed enables them to reach a farther distance with their dive and kicks. The same is also true for Kick factor boosts.
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Re: Pick YOLO gem against this guy.
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2013, 11:17:07 am »
Kickfactor does, but not the gems. I'll test this morning to verify.

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Re: Pick YOLO gem against this guy.
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2013, 11:30:22 am »
Kickfactor does, but not the gems. I'll test this morning to verify.

If the gems aren't increasing Dive height then it's probably a bug. Either that or it's not a big enough difference for you to notice a lot of the time.
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Re: Pick YOLO gem against this guy.
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2013, 11:31:33 am »
Kickfactor does, but not the gems. I'll test this morning to verify.

What. Literally the entire point of the dive gem is to better get above people. Dive gem makes you go higher by increasing initial jump speed by 10%. It doesn't increase gravity to compensate. This is true of every character. You are just completely wrong on this one, lol.

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Re: Pick YOLO gem against this guy.
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2013, 02:08:17 pm »
Jafailey with dive goes very, very very slightly over a style gem jafaiely, the style gen top of his head going up to the top of dive gem's top of his forehead.

In comparison, a dive with dive gem goes a full head higher then a dive with kick.

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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2013, 02:54:49 pm »
Jafailey with dive goes very, very very slightly over a style gem jafaiely, the style gen top of his head going up to the top of dive gem's top of his forehead.

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921272024882550469/8F96A54D990A6375F286976FCF34F716D5D2B33D/

What are you talking about?

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Re: Pick YOLO gem against this guy.
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2013, 03:02:45 pm »
Jafailey with dive goes very, very very slightly over a style gem jafaiely, the style gen top of his head going up to the top of dive gem's top of his forehead.

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921272024882550469/8F96A54D990A6375F286976FCF34F716D5D2B33D/

What are you talking about?

Hey, do you mind posting an image of the difference between dive gem Jefaileys with maximum head size.
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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2013, 03:11:43 pm »
Hey, do you mind posting an image of the difference between dive gem Jefaileys with maximum head size.

Sure!

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921272024882854288/9AB2FFAFD14B7AE3C9AC244187F71CA48060B780/ Normal head size.
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921272024882857735/FBA4203CCDBF58B032A764712D91F3333C026FA6/ Max head size.
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It seems like the "dive bonus" from head size is additive with the gem and not multiplicative, unfortunately. But still, you obviously go way way higher with max head size than normal.

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Re: Pick YOLO gem against this guy.
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2013, 07:00:13 pm »
The pictures support what i was saying..It only gives you a forehead higher. Now compare Dive with dive gem to dive with any other where he gets a whole head higher.

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Re: Pick YOLO gem against this guy.
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2013, 07:18:14 pm »
The pictures support what i was saying..It only gives you a forehead higher. Now compare Dive with dive gem to dive with any other where he gets a whole head higher.

It's only really a forehead higher when he's at maximum head size. Normal Jefailey still gets about a heads worth of increased height with the dive gem.
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Re: Pick YOLO gem against this guy.
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2013, 07:25:43 pm »
The pictures support what i was saying..It only gives you a forehead higher. Now compare Dive with dive gem to dive with any other where he gets a whole head higher.

It's still a full normal head higher, which is pretty significant.

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Re: Pick YOLO gem against this guy.
« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2013, 03:03:27 pm »
the match up isnt hard LOL.

you are probably doing it wrong because most guys he does good enough with simply full hop kicks. you gotta stay low and close like 1-2 jefailly heads away.